From: "Joseph Shepard" <warengine718@...>
Subject: Re: Do what thou wilt
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:25:08 -0000
--- Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law
- I would like to ask you if you ever considered being initiated into HOOR- are there any obstacles? Do you have any reasons to not, be initiated into HOOR? - In other words, Why Not?- Are you using HOOR documents that are not for the eyes of non HOOR members in order to construct rituals of initiation etc?-- Fraternally, Azazel
--- Love is the law, love under will.
baphomet-a@yahoo groups.com, "Jason Carpenter" <protonik@m...> wrote:
I do hope to be able to answer any questions that people might have as to what the Parzival Axis is all about and to provide news and information when it becomes available. Now that the most important documents have been returned I can work on forging what I perceive to be the first axis designed specifically for the UR-OTO.
I should define the Parzival Axis a bit to give people a better understanding of what OUR work is in the Axis. The Parzival Axis currently is representative of the traditions that Marcelo Ramos Motta established for the Society Ordo Templi Orientis and built upon by the Holy Order of Ra Hoor Khuit, and lest you think we are appropriating those material I ask you to listen a bit.
The biggest issue in reworking the Brazilian tradition of the OTO is that nobody has complete copies of the materials that Motta created for his branch of the Order in spite of their claims otherwise. This means outside of a few outlines and rituals used by other orders, it is damn near impossible to reconstruct what Motta, or Frater Parzival, had in mind when it comes to not just the upper degree rituals, but also the lower degree because nothing existed outside of an outline form outside of the I* including many of the secret documents, many of which were incomplete, except for the IX* material.
SO what I have been forced to do is look deep and hard at the rituals of HOOR as a basis while also looking over the popularly known Crowley rituals. I always contended that the greatest failure of the Crowley rituals was that they failed to test candidates and the greatest failure of the Motta rituals was that they were too harsh. I am not appropriating the HOOR rituals but using them to understand the Thelemic initiation processes, I was never a member of HOOR and it would be dishonest, rude and just plain wrong for me to use their rituals as is and without major reworkings of the elements in them.
SO essentially what started out as an attempt to bring the Brazilian OTO into the UR, albeit reconstructed, is resulting in an entirely new set of rites, which I am more comfortable with anyway as I have moved away from Motta, even though he is still a big part of my make-up. Even calling it the Parzival Axis would be inaccurate because very little of the man is actually manifesting in what is developing in my notes. I also don't feel inclined to the symbolism of Parzival, as in the Grail cycle.
Frater Uranus